I've been subscribing to a bug related to my soundcards of choice,
namely M-Audio Delta cards (chipset: envy 1712).
There has been a problem getting these cards to work with Pulseaudio for
years now.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/178442?comments=a…
I've been reading about envy 1712 all over the web, more so last year,
when I was trying my best to solve the problem on my own machine.
One of the things I picked up was that there seemed to be a discussion
on whether this is an Alsa bug, or a Pulseaudio bug.
The bug itself makes it impossible to use audio inputs and outputs with
Pulseaudio, only digital ins and outs are detected. Alsa, OSS and jack
all work well with these cards but not Pulseaudio.
So, is it Alsa or Pulseaudio that causes this?
Who would one want to contact to fix this bug?
(pretty soon there will be no computers left that supports these cards,
so perhaps the problem will eventually solve itself).
I have two machines with 1712 cards. The first one I use for everything,
the second only for music production.
On my Ubuntu Lucid machine, the Pulseaudio problem has caused a really
nice side effect:
I found that I can use Pulseaudio and jack at the same time, side by
side (less reliable perhaps, but reliable enough for my needs).
For this I need two soundcards.
I use the built-in card for Desktop audio/Pulseaudio.
The M-audio card I use only with jack, which I start from the terminal
(Qjackctl suspends pulseaudio, but jack itself does not).
This requires a physical mixer so that both soundcards can be fed to the
same amplifier.
This is the machine I use at home and I use it for everything. That is
why I'd rather have a distro like Ubuntu installed on it. I do not
require low latency at home, so performance is not my main criteria in
this case.
Even though Pulseaudio could be made to work with my M-audio card, I
actually prefer this solution, because it enables me to run both
Pulseaudio and jack at the same time, which otherwise would be
impossible, to my knowledge.
My Puredyne (based on Ubuntu, but comes without pulseaudio) machine is
only used for music, and there are no problems getting M-audio cards
working with that machine, for any intended purpose. Desktop audio is
Alsa-based. Low latency and high performance is my first priority on
this machine. For this purpose I don't use a distro like Ubuntu and I
don't need pulseaudio.
In the end, the pulseaudio related bug does note affect me anymore, but
it does seem a little strange that the problem still persists.
These chipsets must be some of the most popular, if not THE most popular
among pro-audio users. They are cheap and perform well. The second hand
market is huge.
Surely there must be a way to fix the problem with getting pulseaudio to
detect all channels of envy 17xx chipset based audio cards.
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Danni Coy <danni.coy(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> 1) Obviously Sound card and Monitors are most important. Beyond that it
> depends on the type of task. Softsynths will be typically be CPU limited,
> Multitrack recording Harddrive IO limited. I would perhaps look at this page
> for Ardour http://ardour.org/linux_system_requirements which basically
> says that any modern hardware will be fine.
> 2) Dual core should be fine, Quad cores will allow you to run more tasks at
> once. Currently it seems that intel have best low power options with the
> i3,i5,i7 series. AMD might be worth a lookin if you also want accerated
> graphics on a budget.
> 3) I built a system with the Antec P180 case about a 2 years ago. It worked
> quite well. There may be better options now.
> 4) Because I have a firewire based audio interface I have been going with
> Gigabyte Mainboards (TI firewire onboard).
> 5) Whatever you find a comfortable size to use. I have a 23 " in front of
> me at the moment and it seems a pretty good size to work with. If you also
> do a lot of photography or graphic design then I would look at either an
> IPIS or PVA based monitor IPIS monitors typically start at 1000 dollars.
> 6) Fans will largely depend on what else you end up doing. Larger fans
> typically make less noise.
>
>
Is it uberhaubt possible to have a low-power workhorse pc, to save energy?
Which components are especially important here?
\r
Hi
I just found out that I really like the compressor that is build into
audacity. Is it available as a plugin you can use in ardour?
Is there a way to organise plugins in audacity, so I see the plugs I use
often on top?
Best Thomas
Does any of you know of a simpel audio editor(no multitrack or undestructing
editing) for editing and recording wav or mp3.
It should be able to do normalising and comp/limiting and I need to see the
actual wavefile, so that I have an impression on how much
limiting/compression I need to do.
I need it to be fast (single click normalising, single click limiting,
single click export)
It would be nice if it runs on both ubuntu and win xp(I cant skip xp because
I need to run Sibelius6)
I know sweep already..
Thank you, Thomas
Hello,
After the sources of all Sebkha-Chott's and Lemurya's albums, the AMMD,
being in charge of the lights, sound and stage management at the Libre
Software Meeting 2010 in Bordeaux - France, did record the whole shows
with ardour.
The sources (ardour-sessions) of three of those live-shows are available
online on archive.org[1][2][3].
The other live-shows will be put online as soon as we'll get the
authorization from the musicians.
[1] Enfants Terribles - HipHop / France
http://www.archive.org/details/RMLL2010_20100706_EnfantsTerribles_Sources
Band composition: vocals, samplers
[2] Lessazo - World Music / France
http://www.archive.org/details/RMLL2010_20100706_Lessazo_Sources
Band composition: bass, guitar (electro-acoustic and electric),
clarinet, flute, vocals (male and female), percussions (calebass),
n'goni
[3] Sebkha-Chott - Abstract HipHop | Concrete Violence | Mekanik Metal
/ Ohreland
http://www.archive.org/details/SebkhaChott_20100710_Live_RMLL2010_Bordeaux_…
Band composition: soft synths (AMS), sampler (Tapeutape), bass, guitar,
drums, tubular bells, glockenspiel, saxophone, vocals
Enjoy!
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Aurélien
Does anyone on list know anything about this card?
http://www.esi-audio.com/products/maxio032e/
With 4 adat in and 4 adat out it would seem a reasonably priced
alternative to the RME Raydat. Looking at the images I could find
online, it seems they have gone with Xilinx (FPGA?) instead of
ice1724. I presume this would make linux/alsa support tricky, but I'm
way out of my depth and just speculating on this.
-michael
Hello
EMutrix is a simple, easy-to-use graphical mixer application for EMU
1010 based cards like the E-MU 1212m, E-Mu 1616m and E-MU 1820 models.
I am releasing the first source package of EMutrix, version 0.1 at
http://emutrix.googlecode.com
It is mostly functional, allowing arbitrary routing between the card's
multiple inputs, outputs and ALSA, setting clock rate and pads. More
features to come in future versions. Try it out if you have an E-Mu
card!
Any comments welcome.
Greetings,
Camilo
Hi list
Searching for literature for a teacher training course I will be
starting next year, I found the following book from 2010:
"Free Music Software: Gnu Lilypond, Mplayer, Ffmpeg, Supercollider,
Audacity, Ardour, Impro-Visor, Jokosher, Sox, Jfugue, Musescore,
Qtractor" by LLC books.
http://www.amazon.com/Free-Music-Software-Supercollider-Impro-Visor/dp/1156…
There are no reviews to be found or anything so I was wondering if
anyone here has any experience with it. What kind of book is it? Is it
worth buying? Who has written it?
Best regards
Ketil Thorgersen
Ketil Thorgersen:
>
> Hi list
>
> Searching for literature for a teacher training course I will be
> starting next year, I found the following book from 2010:
>
> "Free Music Software: Gnu Lilypond, Mplayer, Ffmpeg, Supercollider,
> Audacity, Ardour, Impro-Visor, Jokosher, Sox, Jfugue, Musescore,
> Qtractor" by LLC books.
> http://www.amazon.com/Free-Music-Software-Supercollider-Impro-Visor/dp/1156…
>
> There are no reviews to be found or anything so I was wondering if
> anyone here has any experience with it. What kind of book is it? Is it
> worth buying? Who has written it?
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On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 01:55:51 +0300, Nedko Arnaudov <nedko(a)arnaudov.name>
wrote:
> Hi Goran!
>
> I've never used set_rlimits myself so please excuse me if I'll give you
> wrong advices.
>
> Probably the best way to run jackdbus with realtime privileges will
> be to edit this file:
>
> /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.jackaudio.service
>
> It contains the commandline that D-Bus session daemon uses to start
> jackdbus when it is needed.
>
> I'm not sure how set_rlimits is used but if I got it right, you have to
> start jackdbus through it.
Starting jackd(bus) through set_rlimits is just one step. I wanted to
know how to pass realtime option (it's -R for jackd if I remember
correctly) when jackdbus accepts "auto" as the only argument (config file
or something?)
> Do you start other audio apps through set_rlimits? If so you may want
> to run ladishd through set_rlimits as well. Its dbus service file is:
>
> /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.ladish.service
>
> All apps are started by ladishd. gladish is just a GUI that talks to
> ladishd. Or you can specify set_rlimits in the commandlines for apps but
> I think this will be quite wrong approach in general.
Setting ladishd through set_rlimits would be the way to go, I think.
> Other possibility is to start the D-Bus session daemon through
> set_rlimits but how to do it depends on how tge session daemon is
> started on your machine.
No, that would be wrong. One would want only some apps/daemons with
rlimits.
> Please, tell me whether these advices are helpful. I think it will be
> useful if the ladish.org wiki has a page that describes how to properly
> setup computers for using set_rlimits. Also you are more than welcome to
> join the ladish mailing list and/or join the IRC channel where people
> using ladish share thoughs about ladish functionality and the problems
> they have.
I think this is helpful, but I can not test it at work. I have
rehearsals and some work to finish, so I hope I'll get back to you with the
info this week. Thanx anyway!
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