>I'd disagree completely - the Audacity interface is totally designed
>for multitracking.
The reason I personally don't recommend Audacity for multitracking is
that you can't record more than a stereo track. ie. it would be a little
hard to record from or send to a multichannel source. Secondly, I've had
some problems mixing multiple tracks on Audacity. It doesn't handle
multiple stereo tracks properly. (at least not yet)
At 06:20 AM 9/3/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>The M Audio Audiophile (PCI version, not the USB) would do a good job
>of both your vinyl transfers and your music recording.
What's wrong with the USB version?
2ms latency wouldn't be noticable, but if you're getting that number from a spec sheet you should know that your actual latency in real life could be quite a bit different. Besides, if you plan to do real multitracking, you may want to look into cards for more professional use. The Audigy2 is more geared towards consumer use.
Also, even though Audacity can mix multiple tracks, this is not it's primary use. It's more of an editor. You might want to consider something like Ardour.
For recording LPs/tapes to CD, try using Gnome Wave Cleaner for getting rid ot the hiss and clicks.
-Reuben
-----Original Message-----
From: millward [mailto:millward@ms.umanitoba.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:01 PM
To: linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu
Subject: [linux-audio-user] Latency question
How bad is 2 ms latency?
I'm trying to decide upon a sound card and
I've noticed that the Creative Sound Blaster
Audigy 2 has a 2 ms latency, but offers
"hiss free" audio fidelity at 106 dB SNR.
The Delta 410 has zero latency, but its $200 US.
Now I'm an idiot at this high end sound card stuff,
so I'm not sure what really matters. All I want to do
is use Linux Audacity to record my own multi-track
creations and convert LP 33rpm records to CD.
I'm sick of tape hiss! After 4 tracks my analog
tape machine is useless. So I bought this here
computer to get away from that hiss and maybe
record something I can listen to without grinding
my teeth.
Any adice would be most welcome!
Hi!
Maybe that is sacrilegious ... but .. i'm sure ALSA-jack are the future in
linux audio systems and i see some efforts in ALSA to mix signals
(dmix ..) , and my question is why not integrate jack in ALSA?
can this integration report some beneffits to the users? (memory, cpu
usage ..)
Thanks
Josep
Dear audio users:
Previously I asked about USB capture, eg., to laptop, but I still have
some questions:
1. Is there a "standard" USB interface for audio? For example, will newer
devices, like "Audiophile", "MobilePre", and "Transit" from Maudio work
using some kind of standard interface as the "Duo" and "Quadro"?
I've seen references to "ASIO" or somesuch. Does that mean they
will all function with standard drivers?
2. What do the [alsa|au|x]mixer controls do?
In particular, if I adjust input gain on (analog) line input will that be
done before or after the A/D? Note, I may need to adjust line level if I
am driving from different sources, like phonograph, cassette tape, or
electret microphones.
Similary, for mic in, is there a separate control for this, eg., before
the mic preamp?
I could not find this information, neither in docs from Maudio nor in alsa
docs. Please point me to the appropriate place if this is written down
somewhere. What I am looking for is a "block diagram" showing where
the amps and level controls really are.
3. If mixers do allow level adjustments above, which USB devices have mixers?
People have claimed that Edirol UA-1A doesn't have a mixer.
How about Edirol UA-3D?
What about Maudio Audiophile, MobilePre, Transit?
Or, perhaps some devices have mixers, but USB control code is not written?
4. Is it usual to have stereo mic inputs on sound cards?
Maudio "Revolution" (and most soundblasters?): *mono* input.
Maudio "Transit": claims stereo input
Maudio MobilePre, Duo, etc. All naturally have stereo input.
5. Finally, I noticed that many of the Maudio USB products, like Audiophile,
Quatro and Duo, need external power. The funny thing is that they
need 9 VAC. AC voltage! What's up with that? I was expecting
some standard DC voltage, eg., 9 or 12V, suitable for mobile use.
Is there a simple way to power these from DC voltage, eg., batteries? I am
willing to open one up (and void the warantee) if necessary. Perhaps there
is a psu inside and I can just bypass that and give some standard voltage
like 5V.
Len at Core Sound made a portable Duo. Perhaps he can tell us
how he did it...
Thanks for all the help. I'm really enjoying this list...
Richard
>The raw device is for externa synth, I believe.
>As far as a sequencer goes, it's far better to use a >softsynth than the legacy card synth. With a softsynth, you >will have far better sounds, see for example timidity and the >eawpats sound with your distro.
>When timidity is installed and launched (timidity -iA) you >will find it in this MusE box.
I wanted to use the wavetable synth, even if it was of lower sound quality, as a tool to listen to work in progress so as to reduce the load on the processor. I have been having some problems with crackling noises which I assume are caused by MusE and or the softsynth overloading the processor when playing back a multitrack midi file.
Today I did some experimenting with TiMidity as the softsynth for MusE -- I got it configured with timidity -iA in one terminal and muse -R in another. Then in the midiport configuration it popped up with timidity port 0 for the first midi port. Unfortunately this produced no sounds on testing. I opened the track info number and tried to select a preset, but all that it had was "???" -- no patches to select from.
Is there another switch that needs to be thrown to load sounds into TiMidity? Something else?
I am running the Planet CCRMA acpi kernel, RH 8.0, with TiMidity++ 2.11.3-4.1, TiMidity midia instruments 2.11.3-4.1, and eawpats 12-1 installed.
Thanks,
Barton
In a message dated 9/1/03 12:43:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
clemens(a)ladisch.de writes:
> snd-mpu401-uart is the driver for the external MIDI port (you'd need a
> gameport/MIDI adapter for this). snd-rawmidi is an ALSA module
> handling device file management and buffering for MIDI ports.
> snd-opl3-lib is the driver for the OPL3 FM synth.
Thanks, got it. So if I wanted to deal with the FM sound quality I could use
the legacy synth?
> I guess Muse uses the ALSA sequencer. Run "aconnect -o" to see a list
> of output ports.
This is the output of aconnect -o when both TiMidity and MusE are running:
[barton@localhost barton]$ aconnect -o
client 128: 'Client-128' [type=user]
0 'TiMidity port 0 '
1 'TiMidity port 1 '
client 129: 'MusE Sequencer' [type=user]
0 'MusE Port 0 '
> >Checking /proc/asound/devices does not list any midi devices,
>
> Did you specifiy the parameters for snd-ymfpci in modules.conf?
> (e.g. mpu_port=0x330 fm_port=0x388)
No I didn't. So to use alsa with the midi port that is on the motherboard I
would need to configure the memory address mpu_port=0x330 in /etcmodules.conf?
Does the line need to go in a specific place, and is that the exact syntax?
Is this documented somewhere? I have installed alsa manually on this machine
before (this time I used the Planet RPMs and alsaconf) and I don't remember
seeing anything that referrred to memory addresses for the midi ports.
Thanks,
Barton
I am trying to use the hardware wavetable midi synth on my YMF 740C sound "card" onboard my motherboard with ALSA and MusE. I have been searching through the various sources of documentation trying to solve the mystery but I am stumped.
# lsmod lists snd-mp401-uart, snd-rawmidi, and snd-opl3-lib among the sound related modules. Can someone give me a definitive answer as to what these modules are? I am pretty sure that snd-mp401-uart is the wavetable midi synth, and am guessing that snd-opl3-lib are the patches for the legacy FM synth that is also on the card, but I don't have any idea what the snd-rawmidi module is for. And why is there no snd-opl3 module itself? Is the legacy FM synth not supported under ALSA?
I checked /proc/modules, so these three modules are loaded, but I can't figure out how to access them generally or through MusE.
Checking /proc/asound/devices does not list any midi devices, (see below):
[root@localhost root]# cat /proc/asound/devices
0: [0- 0]: ctl
27: [0- 3]: digital audio capture
18: [0- 2]: digital audio playback
17: [0- 1]: digital audio playback
16: [0- 0]: digital audio playback
24: [0- 0]: digital audio capture
1: : sequencer
33: : timer
As far as MusE goes, I have gone through the configuration section fairly thoroughly but without finding a way to access mp401-uart. The closest thing that I found was under the midiport configuration table->other raw devices, which brought up a context dialog box which had a choice of raw midi, pipe, or something else which I can't seem to remember at the moment. I tried entering /dev/midiC0D0 as the path for the raw midi device but that didn't configure a valid midi output for the device.
I want the option to use my hardware synth, as well as the software synths, with MusE and generally under ALSA/Linux. Does anyone see something I missed?
Thanks,
Barton
Hello,
ams-1.5.12 is a major update for AlsaModularSynth. There is now a
"Parameter View" dialog where you can group any parameter from any module
and create your own GUI for your patches. Values for the parameters in
"Parameter View" can be stored as presets and restored via MIDI program change.
There is a new tutorial on modular synthesis (commented patches) and
documentation has been updated as well.
See http://alsamodular.sourceforge.net
Have fun !
Matthias
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I need advice on getting a very good PCI soundcard.
I hope to use it for recording my own multi-track
sounds using Linux Audacity with Red Hat 9.
Guitars and bass mostly. Maybe a DX100 keyboard
My system has an Athlon CPU,
Asus A7N8X motherboard with a gig of DDR
I'll be useing a Eurorack UB802 mixer for input.
Could someone tell me a good choice for
a sound card? I expect to spend about $250.
( I being optimistic! )
Any advice would be most welcome!