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[linux-audio-user] Is there interrest in a (near) perfect piano for tiMIDIty for composing music ?

by Roel de Wit

Hi, > The samples are unlooped and some go as many as 40 seconds, I believe. > This library is pretty large, approaching 2GB, but it sure does sound good. > Not perfect, but very, very good. Well send me one of your favorite piano MIDI files and I'll make a recording for you to listen at.. So that you can compare to the current (in my eyes) not perfect beta version of Grandest Piano v0.1. Ever since I made 'digital instruments' (since 1995/1996) I've always tried making instruments as small as possible because in my oppinion this allows for the greatest amount of users to work with it. Since we usually price our products quite low compared to competition we are depended on large sales (uh, that's to pay the rent, food and university, not really much more these days). I agree that the larger a piano is the more likely it is that it sounds even better but 2 GB is hardly usable for the average person.. I'm not saying I won't release a full version using around 1.6 to 1.7 GB of samples, which are all the samples that were made for the piano but it certainly hasn't got much priority. To be honest I've thought about resampling the samples to a minimum usefull samplerate to further decrease the size (around 100 MB or less). The only thing that's stopping me is that we use oggvorbis compression (high quality) to store the instruments in the installer making it easy to download over 200 MB of soundfonts while only effectively having to download 15-40 MB for the installer. The current installer (still only windows based, linux installer can be done within a day if needed) is 40 MB.. I've also made a 6 MB installer in which I couldn't hear any different compared to the 40 MB installer so you might see the benefits of compression here.. If I would resample the samples to a lower frequency oggvorbis compression will be less effective and the quality of the samples would become lower because of this forcing us to ship out CDs instead of simple download accounts. > Bardstown has also delivered native 24-bit for Halion and EXS. I'll see if I can't borrow a friends copy of Halion or EXS (have to look around) and make a version of Grandest Piano for them too. If there are any other much used softsynths/samplers please tell me.. I've often only making instruments for friends as a hobby but never make music myself (I did play the piano 10 years ago though). If I find the time versions for most popular softsynths will be included in the installed (this won't take any extra space since we'll simply build the banks, again and again in one pass from the samples stored in oggvorbis format). > Some library guys are now doing 8 and 16 velocity layers. I've tried one, > but I didn't like it as much as the Bardstown. Cost - $199 U.S. Well Grandest Piano may not be as 'grand' in size as your piano is but it will certainly have a grand sound :) --- Roel / Utopia Sound Division http://www.utopiasd.com

22 years, 10 months

Re:[linux-audio-user] Pianotest1 recording as requested by Mark and answers to questions by others.

by Mark Knecht

<SNIP> I've uploaded the MP3 recording of this MIDI file to http://project-portability.foad.nl/mp3/pianotest1.mp3 Note though that it was sampled from Grandest Piano beta v0.1 and thus will not neccesarily represent the v1.0 release of the piano. <SNIP> Roel, I think this is quite a good start! The upper registers, above middle C, are the best to my ears. They sound quite open and natural. I beleive that this part would be easy to mix and would come through just great on pop music. I think that below middle C, or maybe even an octave further, there isn't quite the power that I hear in the Bardstown (link follows - look for Piano Shoot Out) or the Post Bosendorfer samples on the previous link, but those are 9 foot pianos that costs about $200K U.S. It's got the largest sound around. What piano did you sample by the way?? I certainly liked yours more than a couple that I've purchased and look forward to hearing your final product. It was, BTW, a bit hard, as I suggested earlier, to compare yours with the others because of your choice to use 48K instead of 44.1K. This will make it a bit more difficult for people to use your library at the same time that they use a tool like GigaSampler, but 48K people need a great piano also! Go for it! http://bardstownaudio.com/frames/mp3.html With best regards, Mark

22 years, 10 months

[linux-audio-user] speaking of wonderful GUis..

by iriXx

...there was this really cute DirectX plugin i used once... some vinyl thing, it was for giving a portishead-esque scratchy vinyl sound to things... had the typical 'retro' look GUI... but with a sweet little touch - on the corners of the panel were four divots, and the tooltip that appeared as you mouse over them said 'divots. these are very important for keeping the front panel on'. if you clicked on a divot, it would fall off and the panel would begin to come unhinged, until it was hanging by only one divot, then the panel would fall away and reveal the names of the people who coded it... and the animation finished by returning you to the screen as normal... it was very cute, i can't remember what it was called though... m~ -- iriXx www.iriXx.org copyleft: creativity, technology and freedom? info(a)copyleftmedia.org.uk www.copyleftmedia.org.uk _ ( ) ascii ribbon against html email X / \ cat /dev/sda1 > /dev/dsp *** stopping make sense ***

22 years, 10 months

[linux-audio-user] Is there interrest in a (near) perfect piano for tiMIDIty for composing music ?

by Roel de Wit

Hi, Currently we are working on a cross-platform and multi format commercial GM/GS soundset named Project Portability (code-name).. We're also going to release an extremly realistic grand piano soundfont for Audigy (2) soundcards.. Currently we are determining whether or not to make a special tiMIDIty version. So I'd like to know if there interrest in the Linux community for such a product ? Details of the soon to be ready v0.2 beta version (Audigy (2) only under Windows at the moment): - Between 180 and 220 MB of 48 Khz 16 bit stereo samples sampled from a real piano. These are samples of 5 velocity layers of the piano. - 127 velocity layers. - Perfectly natural piano behaviour and sound. Some MP3 recordings of the v0.1 release can be found at http://project-portability.foad.nl .. These are dry (no reverb) recordings without any post-processing applied to them.. Any comments would be appreciated. --- Roel / Utopia Sound Division http://www.utopiasd.com

22 years, 10 months

Re: [Just Talk] Re: [linux-audio-user] Why we need graphic designers

by linuxmedia4＠netscape.net

"Dave Griffiths" <dave(a)pawfal.org> wrote: >No it's not aRts or mbox (although John Dunn's SoftStep looks like it's along >similar lines: http://www.algoart.com/web/softstep.htm) > Maybe it's just my personal taste. But that looks more like Elvis's mansion than a rolls royce. Please don't be offended, but it just looks gaudy. The right 3D look can be dynamic. I constantly tweek (just to use an example) KDE with 3D buttons and Mid-Green-Metalic colors and fonts to the point where it's very easy to see everything _and_ very modern looking. And this is why I mention earlier about Linux apps looking as good as the screen shots. I forgot how much time I put into getting all the button, fonts and metalic colors right that it's reflected in the programs I run in KDE. Rocco __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

22 years, 10 months

Re: [Just Talk] Re: [linux-audio-user] Why we need graphic designers

by linuxmedia4＠netscape.net

Robert Jonsson <robert.jonsson(a)dataductus.se> wrote: >I've never really looked at PD for instance, though I've heard it can do >wonders. I just looked at it recently again, it strikes me how butt ugly >it is. I can't help but think it would be more appealing if it was gorgeous. Yea and what about the appeal for the person who's "on the fence" about coming over to linux. It can't hurt to have a good looking interface. >The knob in question was rendered in several frames such that it could >turn a complete revolution, which unfortunately takes lots of memory :( >so I'm not so sure these types of graphics are really usable... I'm not a programmer, so I don't know how someone creates an image in gimp (and then) how the program uses it. But with some frames being transparent and others one's being stable, I've gotten a lot out of animations with little memory. I hope this applies... Rocco __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

22 years, 10 months

RE: [Just Talk] Re: [linux-audio-user] Why we need graphic designers

by linuxmedia4＠netscape.net

Alexandre Prokoudine <avp(a)altlinux.ru> wrote: > >http://www.applied-acoustics.com/images/tassman3_big.jpg > >is good too :) Yea, I agree. But still nothing that gimp couldn't handle. Rocco __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

22 years, 10 months

RE: [linux-audio-user] Why we need graphic designers

by linuxmedia4＠netscape.net

Steve Harris <S.W.Harris(a)ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: >http://www.applied-acoustics.com/tassman.htm > >Bugger Free Software, if they port this think to Linux they can have my 400 >EuroBucks. > >Even thier module routing display is attractive and easy to read: >http://www.applied-acoustics.com/images/builderscreen_big.jpg I'm not sure how the interface is superior to a lot of linux programs I've used. And I'm taken interest in you post because I have spent some time with gimp when I got into my web site management class. I would be open to helping with graphics if anyone wants to talk to me about a project that need graphics. Rocco __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

22 years, 10 months

Re: [linux-audio-user] The missing link

by linuxmedia4＠netscape.net

Chris Cannam <cannam(a)all-day-breakfast.com> wrote: >linuxmedia4(a)netscape.net wrote: >> I was learning Rosegarden (according to the installer notes it's >> version 2.1pl3-257) [...] I probly have an old version of >> Rosegarden (although I have the latest SuSE). > >It's not so much that you have an old version, as that you have >a rather different program altogether. > >Generally when anyone on this list refers to Rosegarden they're >likely to be talking about Rosegarden-4, which is a newer and far >more sophisticated application that doesn't even have much code in >common with Rosegarden-2.1. <CHOP-CHOP> >but it should compile out-of-the-box on SuSE 8.1 (the majority of >core Rosegarden developers use SuSE). Being (still somewhat) new to all this, I'm not sure if this is off limits. But I will take a chance. I want to say that SuSE has proven to be a really exellent distrob for Multimedia. And it has consistantly delivered what it promises (when you install a program, it useually works right). Any problems I've had running programs have come from lack of experience. Did I just start a Religious war with that statement? > You may need to install >the odd extra package but nothing that isn't on the SuSE CDs. <CHOP-CHOP> Great information. I guess you've helped "soften me up" about the biggest part of trying out new (or newer versions of) programs (the compiling headeachs). I'm sure I will eventually download it and get it going. I have so many other progams that I'm trying out right now though. Thanks, Rocco __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

22 years, 10 months

[linux-audio-user] Is there interrest in a (near) perfect piano for tiMIDIty for composing music ?

by Roel de Wit

22 years, 10 months

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