Hey Set
Thank you! I got tired of spending hours on things during my education that are just throwaway afterwards. Strongly believe that academia is far too much about constant testing, and should be more based on learning through doing. Wanted to use my time constructively and "give something back" :)
Now I just have to deliver... Feeling the pressure, but glad I chose this and the support is great!
Cheers,
Oliver
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 17:53:29 +0100
> From: set <public(a)sakrecoer.com>
> To: linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
> Subject: Re: [LAU] A Project To Upgrade seq24
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> On 2015-12-09 21:17, oli_kester wrote:
> > Hi Seq24 users,
> >
> > For my final year university project, I am taking on an overhaul of seq24. Below is an excerpt from my project proposal - the list of features I would like to implement -
> >
> > [quote]
> >
> >(...)
>
> WOW !!!! Oliver!!!!! I think it's a beautiful and generous way to use
> your university time! IMHO, Seq24 is a delicious project that deserve
> your motivation and energy. The long feature list you posted made me
> bounce on my chair with anticipation!
>
> Looking forward to see your work and possibly to test it, I wish you the
> best of luck!
>
> --
> Set Sakrecoer
Hi,
ASAP I need to buy a new mobo, so most likely a new CPU and RAM too. It must be cheap and provide PCIe for audio and PCI for at least one additional sound card used for MIDI. In the low cost price range my favored dealer seems to provide ASRock, ASUS and Gigabyte that fulfill these requirements. Is one of those vendors known to be better or less good in the low price range than the others or is it better to chose another vendor?
Regarding issues old AMD CPUs relatively often had with new rt kernels, I suspect an Intel CPU could be the better choice. Are there any of the cheaper AMD or Intel CPUs known to cause issues for audio and MIDI work, resp. known to work flawlessly?
Is there something to consider regarding UEFI? I don't need it and I wonder if it could be disabled for all new mobos.
Send from my iPad, since my LINUX PC is gone to the happy hunting grounds.
Regards,
Ralf
Hello !
Is it possible to replace an all-purpose distro like Linux Mint by
KXStudio and have the same basic functionality ? Might sound like a
not-so-good question, although I prefer to ask it, just in case. Any
drawbacks in running KXStudio as a main distro ?
Cheers.
Thanks Brent
I'll look into this when I refine my feature list. Could you be a little more precise? Does this involve notes that go outside the loop boundaries? Is it the same notes that are lost every time?
A one-loop project file that gives this error would be lovely.
Thanks
Oliver
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 14:36:22 -0600
> From: Brent Busby <brent(a)keycorner.org>
> To: linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
> Subject: Re: [LAU] A Project To Upgrade seq24
> Message-ID: <8xx1tavicl5.fsf(a)village.keycorner.org>
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>
> I wish your project well! I like Seq24 a lot, but the thing that always
> made it unusable for me (not on your list):
>
> - Sometimes "loses" note events sent to external Midi hardware. Very
> easy to reproduce, since a loop will obviously play the same sequence
> over and over, yet the phrase doesn't quite reach the device the same
> way on each repeat (notes missing). I don't know if anyone else has
> this problem, but Seq24 is the only sequencer that does this on my
> system. Muse works fine, as does QMidiArp, as does Hydrogen.
>
> If you can fix that lost note events thing for physical Midi devices,
> that will make Seq24 useful for me...
>
> --
> - Brent Busby + ===============================================
> + "With the rise of social networking
> -- Keycorner -- + sites, computers are making people
> -- Recording -- + easier to use every day."
> ----------------+ ===============================================
Thanks Flo, this looks a useful resource. I'll definitely use what you have :)
I'm not at this level of audio programming yet, but I'll need to be there soon to have a chance with this project. Will be an adventure!
Seq24 is Alsa midi, yep.
Cheers,
Oliver
> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 09:40:42 +0100
> From: Florian Paul Schmidt <mista.tapas(a)gmx.net>
> To: linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
> Subject: Re: [LAU] A Project To Upgrade seq24
>
> On 12/09/2015 09:17 PM, oli_kester wrote:
> > Hi Seq24 users,
> >
> > For my final year university project, I am taking on an overhaul of
> > seq24. Below is an excerpt from my project proposal - the list of
> > features I would like to implement -
>
> Hi, a couple of years ago I did a little midi timing benchmark which
> included seq24 and sadly it had pretty bad jitter.
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20071224212956/http://tapas.affenbande.org/w
> ordpress/?page_id=56
>
> even when patched to use a high priority.
>
> The website has long gone down, but the other pages in the menu might
> still have some valuable information since seq24 is from way back, too :
> )
>
> With the arrival of jack_midi this kind of benchmarking is probably
> not as important anymore, but afaik seq24 still uses alsa-midi?
>
> Flo
Hi Seq24 users,
For my final year university project, I am taking on an overhaul of seq24. Below is an excerpt from my project proposal - the list of features I would like to implement -
[quote]
<< Basic (simple changes that should be quick to address) >>
- Swap default on midi autoconnect to second value (add to config file)
- Song / loop mode switch in main UI
- Recent files list
- Move config file to .config folder in /home
- Label keys correctly on loops past bank 1
<< Medium (bug fixes, smaller new features) >>
- Don't take scene change inputs when renaming loops
- With dual screens, remember window placement
- Darken Song mode (overall dark theme like Ardour?)
- Fix glitch with overlaps in loops
- Session manager fixes
- Toggle loops in song mode
- Click time bar to position transport
- Draw and re-position snap in song mode should behave identically
- Add one shot loops
- Decrease size of grid in song mode
- Add name of scene to the side when in song view
- Add autosave function
- Midi send if halfway through note (can be enabled / disabled in preferences)
- Draw whole notes instead of cutting off early in song mode loops
- Add configurable defaults for note length/ grid snap
- Add note stop/panic button
- Loop colouring
- Fix bug where certain slots cannot contain loops
<< Challenging (significant new features) >>
- Add Box select in song editor (REAPER style)
- Add redo in song mode
- Add Record in song mode
- Allow splitting of song loops at mouse pointer
- Zoom in song mode
- Window title should just have the song name
- Fix jack sync bug/reset button
- Relative velocity altering (REAPER style)
- Add a double / half timing switch for live performance
Where I note “REAPER style”, I plan to source inspiration from the REAPER audio workstation I use under Windows (http://reaper.fm/). The “Ardour” I mention is a Linux audio workstation, and probably the most significant audio project on Linux (http://ardour.org/).
[end quote]
What do you all think? It'll also be great to have a few people test it during development.
This project will also be open source, and remain faithful to the ideals of the original project.
If you have any feedback on my list of changes or any other suggestions, please do get in touch!
Best,
Oliver
Thanks Pelle - these are all great feature ideas, with nice detail. Renoise is really great, definitely worth learning IMO.
The one window thing is up for debate (I personally prefer one window apps like you), but keyboard shortcuts are an easy thing to implement and I don't know why I didn't think of the idea myself!
Thanks,
Oliver
---- On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 08:12:21 +0000 Pelle Nilsson<perni(a)lysator.liu.se> wrote ----
> oli_kester <oli_kester(a)zoho.com> writes:
>
> > Hi Seq24 users,
> >
> > For my final year university project, I am taking on an overhaul of seq24. Below is an excerpt from my project proposal - the list of features I would like to implement -
> >
> > This project will also be open source, and remain faithful to the ideals of the original project.
> >
> > If you have any feedback on my list of changes or any other suggestions, please do get in touch!
>
> Excellent! I completely forgot about even being on the seq24 mailing
> list and have not used the application itself in ages.
>
> I am trying to commit to learn Renoise better, but I really like the
> simplicity of seq24 and there are only a few things that would make
> me use it now and then (or even more than that):
>
> - Combine everything into one window, toggling between song/sequence
> instead of having two different windows. I don't mean
> small-windows-in-on-window GUI, but just a small button to toggle
> or you could press TAB or something to go back and forth to
> song-view and then some hotkey+pattern-hotkey to navigate between
> patterns.
>
> - Which brings me to my other wish: Keyboard hotkeys. It would be
> awesome to be able to navigate and edit everything without the mouse,
> especially when on a (small) laptop.
>
> - Fullscreen would be nice, especially once the two above wishes have
> come true. Not a huge deal because you can get close by configuring
> your window manager a bit, but nice to have a hotkey.
>
> Anyway good luck with this project. Let us know when there is something
> we can test for you.
>
> --
> /Pelle
>
Long live!
---- On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 22:39:17 +0000 Tommy Blomberg<tommy.blomberg(a)gmail.com> wrote ----
> Hi Oli,
> Very nice to see development happening. I actually found out about the sequencer64 project yesterday, so.. long live seq24 or something. :)
>
>
> Cheers
> Tommy
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 10:29 PM, oli_kester <oli_kester(a)zoho.com> wrote:
> Hi Jeremy
>
> Thanks for the support.
>
> Regarding your problem (if I understand it correctly), there is already a fix for this - although it took me ages to find it!
>
> ...In fact, one of my tasks in that list is to move this out of a config file, and into the options dialog.
>
> - Open the ".seq24rc" file in your home folder, and go to the [manual-alsa-ports] section (line 184)
> - Swap the "0" under that entry for a "1", save and close it
> - start up seq24.
>
> Now seq24 should have MIDI connections! Sixteen outputs, found under the "ALSA" tab in QJackQtl. These can be ported to Jack MIDI via the a2jmidid tool :)
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Best,
>
> Oliver
>
> ---- On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 21:13:31 +0000 Jeremy Davis<jeremyhwllc(a)gmail.com> wrote ----
> > Oliver,
> >
> > Hey, I use Seq24 on Linux and I would like to mention there is one thing that would make a huge difference. Seq24 does not indentify itself very well when when trying to route inputs and outputs via Patchage or other similar GUIs like Catia. I know it can be done because other programs like Ardour get it right. Everytime I use Seq24 I have tobplay around for a while guessing how to connect plugins etc..
> >
> >
> > To see what I mean, on a Linux OS you could open Patchage, Ardour, Seq24, and a synth such as amSynth. Ardour obviously identifies itself and each line in or out is well identified. However, the name "Seq24" is nowhere to be found. I think it says "throughput-0" or something not obvious or intuitive.
> >
> >
> > Good luck with your project!
> >
> >
> > Jeremy Davis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, December 9, 2015, oli_kester <oli_kester(a)zoho.com> wrote:
> > Hi Seq24 users,
> >
> > For my final year university project, I am taking on an overhaul of seq24. Below is an excerpt from my project proposal - the list of features I would like to implement -
> >
> > [quote]
> >
> > << Basic (simple changes that should be quick to address) >>
> > - Swap default on midi autoconnect to second value (add to config file)
> > - Song / loop mode switch in main UI
> > - Recent files list
> > - Move config file to .config folder in /home
> > - Label keys correctly on loops past bank 1
> >
> > << Medium (bug fixes, smaller new features) >>
> > - Don't take scene change inputs when renaming loops
> > - With dual screens, remember window placement
> > - Darken Song mode (overall dark theme like Ardour?)
> > - Fix glitch with overlaps in loops
> > - Session manager fixes
> > - Toggle loops in song mode
> > - Click time bar to position transport
> > - Draw and re-position snap in song mode should behave identically
> > - Add one shot loops
> > - Decrease size of grid in song mode
> > - Add name of scene to the side when in song view
> > - Add autosave function
> > - Midi send if halfway through note (can be enabled / disabled in preferences)
> > - Draw whole notes instead of cutting off early in song mode loops
> > - Add configurable defaults for note length/ grid snap
> > - Add note stop/panic button
> > - Loop colouring
> > - Fix bug where certain slots cannot contain loops
> >
> > << Challenging (significant new features) >>
> > - Add Box select in song editor (REAPER style)
> > - Add redo in song mode
> > - Add Record in song mode
> > - Allow splitting of song loops at mouse pointer
> > - Zoom in song mode
> > - Window title should just have the song name
> > - Fix jack sync bug/reset button
> > - Relative velocity altering (REAPER style)
> > - Add a double / half timing switch for live performance
> >
> > Where I note “REAPER style”, I plan to source inspiration from the REAPER audio workstation I use under Windows (http://reaper.fm/). The “Ardour” I mention is a Linux audio workstation, and probably the most significant audio project on Linux (http://ardour.org/).
> >
> > [end quote]
> >
> > What do you all think? It'll also be great to have a few people test it during development.
> >
> > This project will also be open source, and remain faithful to the ideals of the original project.
> >
> > If you have any feedback on my list of changes or any other suggestions, please do get in touch!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Oliver
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jeremy Davis
> > @jeremydavis0_0
> > www.linkedin.com/in/jeremydavisprofile/
> > www.trianglecareerdevelopment.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
Cheers Luke
I start working on it in the new year, so any thoughts about features would be super useful over the next month or so.
Testing will be much appreciated!
Best,
Oliver
---- On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 22:53:36 +0000 Luke Digance<luke.digance(a)gmail.com> wrote ----
> Hi Oliver,
>
>
>
> This is fantastic. It has been a while since I used seq24 due to family study and work commitments. But having just Finished my Adv Dip and gotten full time work, I am looking forward to getting back into it.
>
>
> I would be happy to do some testing.
>
> I primarily use seq 24 under Linux (KX Studio)
>
> I think Jeremy has raised a good point re the routing. I recall always having to spend a long time trying to get it to route to supercollider. I'll try the work around you suggested and try and give you some more feedback and thoughts over the next month.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Luke Digance
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 7:59 AM, oli_kester <oli_kester(a)zoho.com> wrote:
> Hi Jeremy
>
> Thanks for the support.
>
> Regarding your problem (if I understand it correctly), there is already a fix for this - although it took me ages to find it!
>
> ...In fact, one of my tasks in that list is to move this out of a config file, and into the options dialog.
>
> - Open the ".seq24rc" file in your home folder, and go to the [manual-alsa-ports] section (line 184)
> - Swap the "0" under that entry for a "1", save and close it
> - start up seq24.
>
> Now seq24 should have MIDI connections! Sixteen outputs, found under the "ALSA" tab in QJackQtl. These can be ported to Jack MIDI via the a2jmidid tool :)
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Best,
>
> Oliver
>
> ---- On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 21:13:31 +0000 Jeremy Davis<jeremyhwllc(a)gmail.com> wrote ----
> > Oliver,
> >
> > Hey, I use Seq24 on Linux and I would like to mention there is one thing that would make a huge difference. Seq24 does not indentify itself very well when when trying to route inputs and outputs via Patchage or other similar GUIs like Catia. I know it can be done because other programs like Ardour get it right. Everytime I use Seq24 I have tobplay around for a while guessing how to connect plugins etc..
> >
> >
> > To see what I mean, on a Linux OS you could open Patchage, Ardour, Seq24, and a synth such as amSynth. Ardour obviously identifies itself and each line in or out is well identified. However, the name "Seq24" is nowhere to be found. I think it says "throughput-0" or something not obvious or intuitive.
> >
> >
> > Good luck with your project!
> >
> >
> > Jeremy Davis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, December 9, 2015, oli_kester <oli_kester(a)zoho.com> wrote:
> > Hi Seq24 users,
> >
> > For my final year university project, I am taking on an overhaul of seq24. Below is an excerpt from my project proposal - the list of features I would like to implement -
> >
> > [quote]
> >
> > << Basic (simple changes that should be quick to address) >>
> > - Swap default on midi autoconnect to second value (add to config file)
> > - Song / loop mode switch in main UI
> > - Recent files list
> > - Move config file to .config folder in /home
> > - Label keys correctly on loops past bank 1
> >
> > << Medium (bug fixes, smaller new features) >>
> > - Don't take scene change inputs when renaming loops
> > - With dual screens, remember window placement
> > - Darken Song mode (overall dark theme like Ardour?)
> > - Fix glitch with overlaps in loops
> > - Session manager fixes
> > - Toggle loops in song mode
> > - Click time bar to position transport
> > - Draw and re-position snap in song mode should behave identically
> > - Add one shot loops
> > - Decrease size of grid in song mode
> > - Add name of scene to the side when in song view
> > - Add autosave function
> > - Midi send if halfway through note (can be enabled / disabled in preferences)
> > - Draw whole notes instead of cutting off early in song mode loops
> > - Add configurable defaults for note length/ grid snap
> > - Add note stop/panic button
> > - Loop colouring
> > - Fix bug where certain slots cannot contain loops
> >
> > << Challenging (significant new features) >>
> > - Add Box select in song editor (REAPER style)
> > - Add redo in song mode
> > - Add Record in song mode
> > - Allow splitting of song loops at mouse pointer
> > - Zoom in song mode
> > - Window title should just have the song name
> > - Fix jack sync bug/reset button
> > - Relative velocity altering (REAPER style)
> > - Add a double / half timing switch for live performance
> >
> > Where I note “REAPER style”, I plan to source inspiration from the REAPER audio workstation I use under Windows (http://reaper.fm/). The “Ardour” I mention is a Linux audio workstation, and probably the most significant audio project on Linux (http://ardour.org/).
> >
> > [end quote]
> >
> > What do you all think? It'll also be great to have a few people test it during development.
> >
> > This project will also be open source, and remain faithful to the ideals of the original project.
> >
> > If you have any feedback on my list of changes or any other suggestions, please do get in touch!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Oliver
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > _______________________________________________
> > seq24-users mailing list
> > seq24-users(a)lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/seq24-users
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jeremy Davis
> > @jeremydavis0_0
> > www.linkedin.com/in/jeremydavisprofile/
> > www.trianglecareerdevelopment.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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