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by Ralf Mardorf

My last words to and perhaps reading of the threads about the evil that someone forked a project from Fons, that was GPL'ed by Fons and nobody else. Nobody showed a violation of the GPL by Maurizio M. Gavioli, just a mistake he seemingly is willing to correct after I contacted him, something Fons could have done too. Humans tend to make mistakes. If Fons makes a mistake it's ok, if somebody else makes a mistake she/he is bad, should shut up, should stop forking a project, should be fired. Fons made a mistake, he chose the GPL, while he disagrees with the GPL. And now I read to often "please, please Fons, continue writing GPL'ed software, we will reinterpret the GPL for you". Fons is free to stop contributing or to continue contributing by using another license, but if he chose the GPL, he's the only one to blame and not Maurizio M. Gavioli. Calling him simple-minded (because he is one of those Fons was talking about, even while he didn't use Maurizio's name) is offending netiquette, not forking the project is offending netiquette. "Aeolus is meant to emulate a pipe organ, including the limits of a real one. It's not meant to be a backend to some sequencer or notation software, or a general-purpose additive synthesiser." - Fons Maurizio M. Gavioli seems to fork it, for usage with notation software. Any discussion about something that should be wrong with doing this, is a shame and does harm the GPL. Regards, Ralf

12 years, 1 month

Re: [LAU] [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus)

by Ralf Mardorf

Thank you Hermann that I should shut up ;) while I'm right regarding to the link you posted: On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 08:10 +0200, hermann meyer wrote: > Ralf, please stop this. You seems to have no Idea about what the blame > is here. Read here, > > Why, When, and How to Fork an Open Source Project >From your link above: "Why Fork? Answer – Because you cannot get the software to meet your needs any other way. There are different reasons that this might be the case. If the core developers, who have write-access to the source code, don’t accept your features or patches. If the core developers reject use cases or a direction that community members want." And now read what Fons Adriaensen wrote on Fri, 2013-09-20 at 19:35 +0000: > * A request to have a 'volume' control on each stop. > > * A request to make Aeolus start up with the stops etc. that > were in use the last time. > > Both are no-go. Aeolus is meant to emulate a pipe organ, including > the limits of a real one. It's not meant to be a backend to some > sequencer or notation software, or a general-purpose additive > synthesiser. Fons called others simple-minded if they don't respect his intention, while Maurizio M. Gavioli is sorry and not aware about offending the GPL: https://github.com/mgavioli/oscAeolus/issues/1 So you expect that Maurizio M. Gavioli should talk to Fons, after being called simple-minded? It's a shame and it should be forwarded to the FSF or Fons simply should stop contributing GPL'ed software.

12 years, 1 month

[Fwd: Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus)]

by Ralf Mardorf

-------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Ralf To: linux-audio-dev(a)lists.linuxaudio.org Subject: Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 07:40:42 +0200 Here is a statement of Maurizio M. Gavioli: https://github.com/mgavioli/oscAeolus/issues/1 My impression is that he didn't do something bad, that he has got no evil intention and that he is pleasant-natured, IOW what he seems to be a win for the community. However, I didn't read the mails from yesterday 21:35 to today. Perhaps I'll win new insights when reading them now and understand whats bad with Maurizio M. Gavioli and his fork. At the moment my impression is, that it's Fons fault to chose the wrong license and he tries to blame another man for his own mistake. Just an impression. I'll start reading now.

12 years, 1 month

Some linux keyboard and bass jamming

by Ken Restivo

I'm in the mix playing my linux netbook keyboard rig live from around 03:30:00 after the Sun Ra tracks, through until the bitter end when it transitions into the Zardoz soundtrack. http://spazradio.bamfic.com/2013-09-18-all.ogg (warning: 5 hours of music). Most of the linux synth work is between 03:55:00 or so until 04:41:00. The MPC drums and loops (on Ableton, sorry) is Spukkin Faceship. The rapper at 03:35:00 or so is Letter D from Guadalajara http://letterd.net/ The bass is me (fluidsynth) pretty much throughout. Lots of bass in this jam. You can hear fluidsynth clavinet with Fons's autowah at various points. Also Rhodes fluidsynth with JACK RACK, and plenty of Monosynth too. The echo I use excessively throughout is a LADSPA plugin too. -ken

12 years, 2 months

Re: [LAU] [LAD] Community Interaction and Working Together

by Harry van Haaren

On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Brian Sorahan <bsorahan(a)haivision.com>wrote: > I've been wishing for a free Reason-killer ever since starting to use > linux. I actually haven't used Reason since version 4-ish so that is my > reference point (I'm sure it is much more [powerful|bloated] now) > I've never had a proper go at Reason, but I know that Carla is a "rack" type plugin-host: perhaps combining that with Seq24 might get you quite far along? Anyway, noted! -Harry

12 years, 2 months

Re: [LAU] [LAD] Community Interaction and Working Together

by Ralf Mardorf

On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 15:11 +0200, michel dominique wrote: > A monophonic real time note to MIDI converter. Rackarrak

12 years, 2 months

Music with Linux - Nepali Dub

by James Stone

Hi All, Just finished a dub version of "Mayalu Mayalu" by my friend Manoj. Recorded in Ardour and mixed in Mixbus. Here is the original version: https://soundcloud.com/jmstone/mayalu-mayalu-manoj download link: https://soundcloud.com/jmstone/mayalu-mayalu-manoj/download Here is the (new) Dub version: https://soundcloud.com/jmstone/mayalu-dub/s-Tr8ic download link: https://soundcloud.com/jmstone/mayalu-dub/download/s-Tr8ic/ Enjoy! James

12 years, 2 months

Aeolus

by Fons Adriaensen

Hello all, It has come to my attention that there are ATM at least two 'forks' of Aeolus. The first by the MuseScore team, the second by one Maurizio Gavioli. Neither of them even had the decency to let me know of their work, and both are taking Aeolus in a direction I do not approve of. Gavioli has even added his 'copyright' to the sources of the libraries that Aeolus depends on but which are not part of its source distribution. Apparently the intention is to release incompatible versions of those as well. If this is typical for the attitude taken by the Linux Audio community then my motivation to contribute to it will take a serious blow. As announced previously, there will be a fully reworked release of Aeolus next year (on the occasion of its 10th birthday). Apart from major improvements to the audio code it will be completely OSC controlled. None of this will be compatible with the forks of course, they'll find themselves instantly obsolete. And I will make sure that this sort of thing won't happen again, even if that means a more restrictive license. Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)

12 years, 2 months

jack - ardour - CPU

by Fero Kiraly

hi list, when I start Jack, there is in transport RT 2%, then when I start ardour the percentage rise up to 34% - is that ok ? (i am asking becaouse i have some problems & I am trying to resolve them) thak you, fero

12 years, 2 months

Re: [LAU] jack - ardour - CPU

by Fero Kiraly

yes, it is fresh ardour session. my cpu is intel i3 2.xGHz, so i think spomething is wrong... ;( fero

12 years, 2 months

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