My last words to and perhaps reading of the threads about the evil that
someone forked a project from Fons, that was GPL'ed by Fons and nobody
else.
Nobody showed a violation of the GPL by Maurizio M. Gavioli, just a
mistake he seemingly is willing to correct after I contacted him,
something Fons could have done too. Humans tend to make mistakes. If
Fons makes a mistake it's ok, if somebody else makes a mistake she/he is
bad, should shut up, should stop forking a project, should be fired.
Fons made a mistake, he chose the GPL, while he disagrees with the GPL.
And now I read to often "please, please Fons, continue writing GPL'ed
software, we will reinterpret the GPL for you".
Fons is free to stop contributing or to continue contributing by using
another license, but if he chose the GPL, he's the only one to blame and
not Maurizio M. Gavioli. Calling him simple-minded (because he is one of
those Fons was talking about, even while he didn't use Maurizio's name)
is offending netiquette, not forking the project is offending
netiquette.
"Aeolus is meant to emulate a pipe organ, including the limits of a real
one. It's not meant to be a backend to some sequencer or notation
software, or a general-purpose additive synthesiser." - Fons
Maurizio M. Gavioli seems to fork it, for usage with notation software.
Any discussion about something that should be wrong with doing this, is
a shame and does harm the GPL.
Regards,
Ralf
Thank you Hermann that I should shut up ;) while I'm right regarding to
the link you posted:
On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 08:10 +0200, hermann meyer wrote:
> Ralf, please stop this. You seems to have no Idea about what the blame
> is here. Read here,
>
> Why, When, and How to Fork an Open Source Project
>From your link above:
"Why Fork?
Answer – Because you cannot get the software to meet your needs any
other way.
There are different reasons that this might be the case. If the core
developers, who have write-access to the source code, don’t accept your
features or patches. If the core developers reject use cases or a
direction that community members want."
And now read what Fons Adriaensen wrote on Fri, 2013-09-20 at 19:35
+0000:
> * A request to have a 'volume' control on each stop.
>
> * A request to make Aeolus start up with the stops etc. that
> were in use the last time.
>
> Both are no-go. Aeolus is meant to emulate a pipe organ, including
> the limits of a real one. It's not meant to be a backend to some
> sequencer or notation software, or a general-purpose additive
> synthesiser.
Fons called others simple-minded if they don't respect his intention,
while Maurizio M. Gavioli is sorry and not aware about offending the
GPL:
https://github.com/mgavioli/oscAeolus/issues/1
So you expect that Maurizio M. Gavioli should talk to Fons, after being
called simple-minded?
It's a shame and it should be forwarded to the FSF or Fons simply should
stop contributing GPL'ed software.
-------- Forwarded Message --------
From: Ralf
To: linux-audio-dev(a)lists.linuxaudio.org
Subject: Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus)
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 07:40:42 +0200
Here is a statement of Maurizio M. Gavioli:
https://github.com/mgavioli/oscAeolus/issues/1
My impression is that he didn't do something bad, that he has got no
evil intention and that he is pleasant-natured, IOW what he seems to be
a win for the community.
However, I didn't read the mails from yesterday 21:35 to today. Perhaps
I'll win new insights when reading them now and understand whats bad
with Maurizio M. Gavioli and his fork.
At the moment my impression is, that it's Fons fault to chose the wrong
license and he tries to blame another man for his own mistake. Just an
impression. I'll start reading now.
I'm in the mix playing my linux netbook keyboard rig live from around 03:30:00 after the Sun Ra tracks, through until the bitter end when it transitions into the Zardoz soundtrack.
http://spazradio.bamfic.com/2013-09-18-all.ogg (warning: 5 hours of music).
Most of the linux synth work is between 03:55:00 or so until 04:41:00.
The MPC drums and loops (on Ableton, sorry) is Spukkin Faceship.
The rapper at 03:35:00 or so is Letter D from Guadalajara http://letterd.net/
The bass is me (fluidsynth) pretty much throughout. Lots of bass in this jam.
You can hear fluidsynth clavinet with Fons's autowah at various points. Also Rhodes fluidsynth with JACK RACK, and plenty of Monosynth too. The echo I use excessively throughout is a LADSPA plugin too.
-ken
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Brian Sorahan <bsorahan(a)haivision.com>wrote:
> I've been wishing for a free Reason-killer ever since starting to use
> linux. I actually haven't used Reason since version 4-ish so that is my
> reference point (I'm sure it is much more [powerful|bloated] now)
>
I've never had a proper go at Reason, but I know that Carla is a "rack"
type plugin-host: perhaps combining that with Seq24 might get you quite far
along?
Anyway, noted! -Harry
Hello all,
It has come to my attention that there are ATM at least two
'forks' of Aeolus. The first by the MuseScore team, the second
by one Maurizio Gavioli.
Neither of them even had the decency to let me know of their
work, and both are taking Aeolus in a direction I do not
approve of. Gavioli has even added his 'copyright' to the
sources of the libraries that Aeolus depends on but which
are not part of its source distribution. Apparently the
intention is to release incompatible versions of those as
well.
If this is typical for the attitude taken by the Linux Audio
community then my motivation to contribute to it will take
a serious blow.
As announced previously, there will be a fully reworked
release of Aeolus next year (on the occasion of its 10th
birthday). Apart from major improvements to the audio code
it will be completely OSC controlled. None of this will be
compatible with the forks of course, they'll find themselves
instantly obsolete. And I will make sure that this sort of
thing won't happen again, even if that means a more restrictive
license.
Ciao,
--
FA
A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia.
It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris
and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)
hi list,
when I start Jack, there is in transport RT 2%,
then when I start ardour the percentage rise up to 34% - is that ok ?
(i am asking becaouse i have some problems & I am trying to resolve them)
thak you,
fero