Linux-audio-user July 2005

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Re: [linux-audio-user] Usability vs Intuitability in Ardour

by eviltwin69＠cableone.net

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:17 , Brett McCoy <idragosani(a)chapelperilous.net> sent: >eviltwin69(a)cableone.net wrote: > >> Aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhhhh! Not again. Oh well, I might as well throw >> down too. I started on UNIX with vi (and in response to a way earlier thread, >> not all of us started on Windoze - my first system was IBM OS-360, then on to >> various others, then UNIX). When I first used vi I was blown away by the power >> of the thing. Later I discovered Emacs. I switched. I still use vi if I want >> to do something small very quickly (I hate waiting for Xemacs start up). If I'm >> doing serious coding I use Xemacs just because it is much, much more powerful. >> So, the old saw about people staying with what they know isn't always true. I >> just try to use the right tool for the job. Oh, I also use ed and sed ;-) > >Real Programmers use cat... > I like cat..... I don't think I could eat a whole one, but I like 'em ;-) Jan

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[linux-audio-user] Rivendell talk streamed tonight

by Eric Dantan Rzewnicki

Fred Gleason will be speaking about and demonstrating Rivendell and Call Commander this evening at the SBE meeting hosted by RFA. A live ogg theora stream will be available: http://streamer2.rfa.org/sbe_video.ogg I'll be in #rivendell on irc.freenode.net to relay any feedback. Hope to read you there. Rivendell is a suite of GLD'ed radio broadcast automation tools developed primarily by Fred. Read more about it here: http://www.salemradiolabs.com/ -- Eric Dantan Rzewnicki | Systems Administrator Technical Operations Division | Radio Free Asia 2025 M Street, NW | Washington, DC 20036 | 202-530-4900 CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized dissemination, distribution, or copying is strictly prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact network(a)rfa.org.

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Re: [linux-audio-user] Opening up the discussion

by eviltwin69＠cableone.net

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:34 , Lee Revell <rlrevell(a)joe-job.com> sent: >On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 10:46 +0200, Mario Lang wrote: >> That is the point, I absolutely dont feel reading up on something >> is necessarily a bad thing. My hair stand up if I watch >> a typical no-clue windows user more or less randomly hitting >> buttons in the interface until "something" works. I do feel this >> "it has to work out of the box without me having to know anything >> about it" attitude is childish. >> > >I disagree violently with this line of reasoning. Software should >ALWAYS work the way the user expects it to unless there is a DAMN GOOD >REASON, for example if you are offering a much more powerful interface >than the user is used to. > >For example, most apps (Firefox and IE) use "Ctrl-F" to 'Find in page'. >Except Evolution, which forces you to use "Ctrl-S" to 'Find (Search) in >page', because they have already bound Ctrl-F to 'Forward message'. Ah, but Ctrl-S has been search in all versions of Emacs for the last couple of decades. I think that predates IE and Firefox. They must not have felt like doing it in the normal way ;-) And you don't need to point out that Emacs isn't a browser since Evolution isn't one either. > >This is a MAJOR usability bug; "We didn't feel like doing it the normal >way" is NEVER a "good reason" for usability purposes. > >Lee Jan

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Re: [linux-audio-user] audacity and jack

by Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen <k.s.matheussen＠notam02.no>

Andrew Gaydenko: >The only sound editor I know to _work_ with jack is > >https://gna.org/projects/mhwaveedit/ > >All others declare jack support only. SND works just fine with jack: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/ For example, can you set up a great sounding midi softsynth completely running inside the jack realtime thread using only 90 lines with mhwaveedit? http://tinyurl.com/borbp

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RE: [linux-audio-user] Opening up the discussion

by Immanuel Litzroth

Emacs has vim emulation. Immanuel -----Original Message----- From: linux-audio-user-bounces(a)music.columbia.edu [mailto:linux-audio-user-bounces@music.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of luis jure Sent: dinsdag 26 juli 2005 16:28 To: A list for linux audio users Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Opening up the discussion el Tue, 26 Jul 2005 06:32:25 -0400 Joe Hartley <jh(a)brainiac.com> escribió: > The old joke is that Richard Stallman had only one system call at the > heart of GNU/Hurd: start_emacs() yeah, i reckon emacs must be a pretty powerful operating system... it only lacks a good text editor. but you can always use vim for that. (just in case, this is just for fun, please no flamewars, no aggressions. it's just that i _love_ emacs/vim jokes)

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[linux-audio-user] Small shell script

by Emiliano Grilli

Hi, I used to play files on console with "alsaplayer -i text", to have a CLI jack-aware player, but what was annoying is that alsaplayer doesn't do resampling very well (e.g. if you play a 48Khz file on a 44.1Khz soundcard). Then I started using jacklaunch with mpg123 and ogg123, but in this case filenames with spaces did'nt work :( So i created this little script stealing some code from the jacklaunch script. It's tested on my DeMuDi 1.2.1 .... I hope someone can find it useful too... I leaved alsaplayer to play .m3u as you can't know if they contain oggs or mp3s or both... (listening to the wonderful http://opensrc.org/radio.m3u now :)) PS: as I'm not a programmer at all, it surely contains naive errors... any comment / suggestion / correction is highly appreciated. Ciao -- Emiliano Grilli Linux user #209089 http://www.emillo.net

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Re: [linux-audio-user] Usability vs Intuitability in Ardour

by eviltwin69＠cableone.net

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 12:20 , james(a)dis-dot-dat.net sent: >must...resist..trying....to...convert... > >Gah, sod it. Here goes: > >Emacs might be awkward at first. Just like walking might be awkward >when you're used to crawling. That doesn't justify going to work on >your hands and knees. > >People get past the learning curve and use Emacs because once they do, >they find that they can do things more quickly and easily than they >can in anything else. Some things are just impossible to do in >Windows-like editors without a lot of hard work - replace-regexp is my >favourite example, and has saved me hours of work. Add to that the >syntax highlighting, indentation awareness, cooperation with make, >latex, javac, whatever, region comment/uncomment, etc., etc., and you >will begin to see why learning Emacs is worth it. > >Vi people will say the same kind of things about Vi, but of course, >they only like Vi because they haven't got used to Emacs yet. > >And there is one more thing that I love about Emacs that will probably >be seen as a problem by others: I don't know all of it. That's right, >I enjoy my ignorance. I learn new things all the time, and my >"editing experience" is enriched. Please excuse that lapse into >marketing speak. > >Notice I have stayed away from calling Emacs the One True Editor. >This isn't because it's not, but because that kind of talk tends to >scare people away. > >Emacs is the only religion I need. > Aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhhhh! Not again. Oh well, I might as well throw down too. I started on UNIX with vi (and in response to a way earlier thread, not all of us started on Windoze - my first system was IBM OS-360, then on to various others, then UNIX). When I first used vi I was blown away by the power of the thing. Later I discovered Emacs. I switched. I still use vi if I want to do something small very quickly (I hate waiting for Xemacs start up). If I'm doing serious coding I use Xemacs just because it is much, much more powerful. So, the old saw about people staying with what they know isn't always true. I just try to use the right tool for the job. Oh, I also use ed and sed ;-) Jan

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[linux-audio-user] athlon 64 + mixart

by Eric Dantan Rzewnicki

Does anyone here have experience using a digigram mixart card in an athlon 64 box? The box doesn't seem to recognise the card at all. I've started digging, but just wondered if there are any known issues here. -- Eric Dantan Rzewnicki | Systems Administrator Technical Operations Division | Radio Free Asia 2025 M Street, NW | Washington, DC 20036 | 202-530-4900 CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized dissemination, distribution, or copying is strictly prohibited. If you receive this transmission in error, please contact network(a)rfa.org.

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[linux-audio-user] Even more music made with linux

by Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen <k.s.matheussen＠notam02.no>

This is a tune I just put together using ardour, snd, jamin, timemachine, e-radium and qsynth/fluidsynth. All the vocals and guitars where recorded (using my extremely lousy equipment), and the other sounds are coming from qsynth/fluisynth composed using Radium. Jamin was used in "Bypass"-mode, which I think sounded quite okey. (Might experiment abit more with Jamin later though...) The sound from jamin was recorded into timemachine, and later encoded to ogg-format using oggenc. http://www.notam02.no/~kjetism/mp3/preludium.ogg

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Re: [linux-audio-user] Opening up the discussion

by eviltwin69＠cableone.net

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:32 , Lee Revell <rlrevell(a)joe-job.com> sent: >On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 15:17 -0400, Joe Hartley wrote: >> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:34:41 -0400 >> Lee Revell rlrevell(a)joe-job.com> wrote: >> > For example, most apps (Firefox and IE) use "Ctrl-F" to 'Find in page'. >> > Except Evolution, which forces you to use "Ctrl-S" to 'Find (Search) in >> > page', because they have already bound Ctrl-F to 'Forward message'. >> > >> > This is a MAJOR usability bug; "We didn't feel like doing it the normal >> > way" is NEVER a "good reason" for usability purposes. >> >> One could argue that since search in Emacs has been ^s for ages, that >> those who use ^f are the ones who have broken convention for no good >> reason. >> > >True, but the Emacs people should have put a stop to it years ago before >IE and Mozilla and Firefox made Ctrl-F the de facto standard. Nowadays >if you want to integrate with the rest of the modern GUI desktop you'd >better play ball. I disagree completely. Those who wrote Netscape, Mozilla, Firefox, IE should have used the standard that was already in place. Emacs even pre-dates Mosaic. Or should they all have used the / from vi for searches :-D All of this really doesn't matter though, as Joe pointed out it's nice to have standards since there are so many ;-) Jan

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Linux-audio-user July 2005