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>On Friday 10 October 2003 23:12, Jan Depner wrote:
> You work on code for supercollider? Interesting. A close friend of
> > mine was working on that before it got shut down. PhD in particle
>> physics. Worked at Fermi Lab prior to that. He uses Linux now as do
> > I. What, exactly, was your point?
oh no! I mean SuperCollider the music language app. look at
http://www.audiosynth.com
and help make the linux port of SC server!
http://sourceforge.net/projects/supercollider/
as to my original point, it's mostly being summed up in the other
thread of mp3 vs. ogg etc...
>Matthias writes:
>Well spoken! I think this is not only related to ogg, it's related to most of
>the technology in the linux audio scene. We need to show people that it can
>actually be used to create great stuff.
>
>IMPO Linux audio isn't ready for the average Windows/Mac-user, but there is
originally, I wrote to respond to questions regarding a lack of
prebuilt tools, a small user base, etc. I was giving my perspective
as an educated, experienced studio and computer music user, but
coming from the professional and academic worlds wherein we all used
Macintosh. My point was that I was excited by the prospect of
learning morel, being on the cutting edge, being in the community of
Linux users, but that, even as an experienced user, I was finding it
very very difficult to make the transition, but I thought it might be
intersting to understand why I was learning linux. The philosophizing
came in the form of questions like: "is it a good thing or a bad
thing to be an elite group of users?" "do linux audio users want to
exist as part of a specifically educated group or to make it useable
by joe-reason user?" basically pointing out that when you become so
far inside a specific knowledge base it is sometimes hard to see how
opaque it may appear from outside --cf. improv or avant-garde music
cliques...
I was just poking the hornet's nest, as usual. please don't take this
sort of response as complaining! I am really happy with the available
sounds and software and you can expect a note somewhere on any
releases i make from now on that linux was used.
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Hi all,
To be honest I'm posting this before investigating all possibilites
myself, but i'm fast approaching the 'hugely frustrated stage'.
How do I enable the spdif input on my audiophile 2496, please? A bit of
googling suggested I should change the line in
/usr/share/alsa/cards/ICE1712.conf from
slave.channels 10
to
slave.channels 20
which should enable input (and disable output since you can't have both
at the same time on this card.) Correct?
I'm looking at the envy24control mixer settings, and I've unmuted the
spdif input channels and turned up the sliders, but no input is showing
on the meters. Is there anything else I should be doing? I haven't got
an .asoundrc, should I?
thanks, Jordan.
hi fellow linuxicians !
Is there any sequencer out there, that is able to control abstract musical
paramenters (simply numbers, so to speak :) for synth-systems like pd, beast
etc... there may be some fine midi sequencer, but sometimes note-on /offs on
a
32-grid just ain't enough to control something like grain-loop machine, or
whatever....
I'm having something in mind, what could be something like a OSC(open sound
control) sequencer...with programmable event/signal templates like /start or
/stop ... and nifty curve-based drawing tools, like those found in sequencer
with decent automation-handling (eg. logic,protools,...)
I'm just wondering if there's anything like that out there
or maybe a fitting (sequencer) develompent-library..
cheers !
jan.
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thanks to all who read that missive and responded, very
interesting. lest you all think that i was complaining about the
state of linux audio, i assure you i was not. i had interpreted
earlier posts to be asking why more people weren't using linux audio
tools, so i gave an example of somebody who had been working in
another world and was moving into linux.
i love the process of learning new things, gotta keep the old
dog young, so for me learning more about how the hardware really
interacts with the software is an interesting puzzle to work through
--i feel the same way about writing code for supercollider. i don't
come from a background of writing code so the process of learning how
to do it is both frustrating and exciting --logic puzzles.
though not necessary, i should clarify my statements about
film and music industry media moving through macs, i meant mostly in
terms of recording (audio), editing and mixing (both video and
audio). certainly all the major visual-effect rendering has been cgi
-moving to almost all linux now. (though my friends at pixar imply
that there's some "upper management" pressure to sell renderman for
mac g5s...but then they'd actually have to man the phones for tech
support.. heh.)
the one thing that i can't reconcile yet is mr shirkey's post
about the other perspective: if you can't hack the pace then you
shouldn't be in the driver's seat.
i am definitely of two minds on this. one side says that,
yes, no compromise should be made by those who know how to make a
thing do what they want it to do simply to allow others do it as
well. in this way there can be major forward momentum in the growth
of a system, but it also makes an elite group of experts that must be
deferred to in order to be able to use their wisdom. this can have
deleterious effects upon the culture of the users, besides just
making some cache of coolness that comes with being "in the know"
(while appearing to be snobs from those that wish they could be in
the know themselves!) that is completely irrelevant to the real
situations, yet completely within human nature, wherein the
development must take long and winding routes to reach the majority
of the users who cannot "hack the pace", pun intended.
for myself, i see the allure of learning to stay on the
bleeding edge of technology and to make music from software that is
coming into being daily from a group of people who are likewise
inclined. i am one of those people who has to take a preset apart to
make something of their own before thinking that they are making
their own music. and while i would love to believe i am special
somehow for being that way, politically i think i am far too populist
to allow it to become elitism. so that part of me wants to make the
hard things get easier, perhaps.
ok, enough of this -
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4014 Brookdale Ave. Oakland, CA 94619
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http://www.MagneticMotorworks.com
tel (510) 534 7825 cell (510) 484 7415 fax (425) 955 4495
Initial package release of jackEQ-0.3.3 is now available from sf.net.
http://jackeq.sf.net
TODO:
internally assigning jack i/os
multiple interfaces - Long interface
- Tall interface (current)
extra button functionality - mostly for ease of use
unlimited channel support (mostly a gui design issue)
variety of xfader gain slopes for better mixing.
MIDI fader console support.
Enjoy.
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Http://www.boosthardware.comHttp://www.djcj.org - The Linux Audio Users guide
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Being on stage with the band in front of crowds shouting, "Get off! No!
We want normal music!", I think that was more like acting than anything
I've ever done.
Goldie, 8 Nov, 2002
The Scotsman
Mark wrote:
> Windows Media Player doesn't handle ogg files. Is there a Windows app
>that would allow my to listen to ogg files?
I have used Sonique2 (not the original sonique, that won't work).
It is a beta, but appears to work for my .ogg files.
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Juhan Leemet
Logicognosis, Inc.
hello all - is there a cd recorder that can record audio cds to an ide cd
recorder driver?
I have xcdroast, which doesn't seem to do audio - it has an option to play
audio files from the harddrive (and doesn't see my soundcard and I can't
figure out how to load audio files anyway - weird)
and I have of course the command line cdrecord - but that seems to only deal
with scsi drives - right?
hmmm
thanks!
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well I've been googling, and reading and googling and boogling and moogling
and juggling and fuggling and tuggling for hours upon hours and I still have
this question...
"So, are you all telling me that there are no sequencers for linux that
support a simple sysex dump and sysex receive, you know, by taking a .syx
file and throwing it out to the machine?"
:)
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Aaron Trumm
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Hello - maybe someone can help
I have this problem - all of a sudden when I boot up, my HDSP9652 sound module
won't load - a big red FAILED is shown - it was working yesterday - here's
what I've got (some of you already know this ;) ), and what I changed:
Red Hat 9
planet ccrma install
Alsa drivers that me and mark K and fernando fixed with the HDSP patch by
thomas
- all was well
then I got the failed today, and when I tried to insmod the module from a
terminal I get:
# /sbin/insmod snd-hdsp
Using /lib/modules/2.4.20-20.1.caps.rh90/kernel/sound/snd-hdsp.o
/lib/modules/2.4.20-20.1.caps.rh90/kernel/sound/snd-hdsp.o: unresolved symbol
snd_hwdep_new_Rf0dea83e
hmm lesseee if I can remember what I changed yesterday (I don' t THINK I had
tried rebooting anytime yesterday)
dosemu with cakewalk, and mdf (a simple does midi librarian) - I doubt this is
the problem
the hotplug scripts from planet by doing:
apt-get install hotplug hotplug-gtk
that was in order to install midisport 2x2 driver from usb-midi-fw.sf.net
these last two are my culprits, I assume. but everything was working nicely
together yesterday, before I powered down.
I'm confused :)
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>I'm probably showing off my inexperience here, but what about SGI? I
>thought all the Silicon Graphics stuff had been ported to Linux and
>Linux was becoming the OS of choice for Hollywood DM people who used
>to rely on SGI because it's Unix-based, and all that. Is that not
>true?
It is true that lots of the major pipelines, especially ones heavily into CGI work, are turning to Linux systems. However, most or them are the huge industry powerhouses (Pixar, Dreamworks etc) who have their own in house software and developement. They are just simply porting their software over to Linux. So even though they are proving that Linux works as an excellent OS for media production, very little of the apps they use are available to the public. And of course they are willing to get their hands dirty... :o)
Reguards,
-Reuben
