Chris Cannam <cannam(a)all-day-breakfast.com> wrote:
>linuxmedia4(a)netscape.net wrote:
>> I was learning Rosegarden (according to the installer notes it's
>> version 2.1pl3-257) [...] I probly have an old version of
>> Rosegarden (although I have the latest SuSE).
>
>It's not so much that you have an old version, as that you have
>a rather different program altogether.
>
>Generally when anyone on this list refers to Rosegarden they're
>likely to be talking about Rosegarden-4, which is a newer and far
>more sophisticated application that doesn't even have much code in
>common with Rosegarden-2.1.
<CHOP-CHOP>
>but it should compile out-of-the-box on SuSE 8.1 (the majority of
>core Rosegarden developers use SuSE).
Being (still somewhat) new to all this, I'm not sure if this is off limits. But I will take a chance. I want to say that SuSE has proven to be a really exellent distrob for Multimedia. And it has consistantly delivered what it promises (when you install a program, it useually works right). Any problems I've had running programs have come from lack of experience.
Did I just start a Religious war with that statement?
> You may need to install
>the odd extra package but nothing that isn't on the SuSE CDs.
<CHOP-CHOP>
Great information. I guess you've helped "soften me up" about the biggest part of trying out new (or newer versions of) programs (the compiling headeachs).
I'm sure I will eventually download it and get it going. I have so many other progams that I'm trying out right now though.
Thanks,
Rocco
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Hi,
Currently we are working on a cross-platform and multi format commercial
GM/GS soundset named Project Portability (code-name).. We're also going to
release an extremly realistic grand piano soundfont for Audigy (2)
soundcards.. Currently we are determining whether or not to make a special
tiMIDIty version. So I'd like to know if there interrest in the Linux
community for such a product ?
Details of the soon to be ready v0.2 beta version (Audigy (2) only under
Windows at the moment):
- Between 180 and 220 MB of 48 Khz 16 bit stereo samples sampled from a real
piano. These are samples of 5 velocity layers of the piano.
- 127 velocity layers.
- Perfectly natural piano behaviour and sound.
Some MP3 recordings of the v0.1 release can be found at
http://project-portability.foad.nl .. These are dry (no reverb) recordings
without any post-processing applied to them.. Any comments would be
appreciated.
---
Roel / Utopia Sound Division
http://www.utopiasd.com
jfm3 wrote on Wed, 22-Jan-2003:
> IMHO, a fancy GUI for a real time effect like this one is a bit of a
> wasted effort. You typically use this thing from your geetar and a pedal
> board that sends program change messages.
I tend to agree with jfm3 here... the EDP featureset and interface was pretty
much designed expressly for realtime live use.
Other looping paradigms might be more powerful and appropriate
for computer UI interaction and sequencing... and I'm sure one
of us will get something jacked into Ardour eventually :)
On another note -- if anyone gets sooperlooper (via PD or anything
else) working on a Mac, let me know because Matthias Grob
(the designer of the original EDP) has expressed interest in using
it.
jlc
Hi Paul,
> > Details of the soon to be ready v0.2 beta version (Audigy (2) only under
> > Windows at the moment):
> > - Between 180 and 220 MB of 48 Khz 16 bit stereo samples sampled from a
real
> > piano. These are samples of 5 velocity layers of the piano.
> > - 127 velocity layers.
> > - Perfectly natural piano behaviour and sound.
> > Some MP3 recordings of the v0.1 release can be found at
> > http://project-portability.foad.nl .. These are dry (no reverb)
recordings
> > without any post-processing applied to them.. Any comments would be
> > appreciated.
> They're pretty nice recordings.
> What do you anticipate the price to be?
Between 25 and 35 US$.. It won't be released before it's perfect though and
several pianists are currently assisting me in the getting it as close as
possible to the real thing. The Audigy/Audigy2 version for windows will be
done first. After than a tiMIDIty version 'might' be made together with the
VSampler 3 version.
What I've currently interrested in is if there is any interrest for such a
product for use under Linux..
---
Roel / Utopia Sound Division
http://www.utopiasd.com
Anyone know how I can emulate a rhodes using the computer keyboard?
A mix I'm working on really needs some hearty organ.
--
Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd.
For the discerning hardware connoisseur
Http://www.boosthardware.comHttp://www.djcj.org - The Linux Audio Users guide
========================================
Being on stage with the band in front of crowds shouting, "Get off! No!
We want normal music!", I think that was more like acting than anything
I've ever done.
Goldie, 8 Nov, 2002
The Scotsman
Daniel James <daniel(a)mondodesigno.com> wrote:
>> If you're using a soundblaster style card I think you can set the record
>> input to MIDI and just record a stereo wav file
>
> I asked the question the other day - with an SB Live, run alsamixer and
> toggle capture on the fader titled 'music' with the space bar. This
> should enable you to record the internal synth via /dev/dsp
Many thanks to both of you. This has opened up tons of flexibility and usefulness that I didn't expect.
Rocco
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Patrick Shirkey <pshirkey(a)boosthardware.com> wrote:
> I think you've encountered the reason for jack.
>From what I've been reading on this list for the last 6 months,
it sounds great. I just want to learn a bunch of basic programs
first (sequencers, multitrackers, alsa...) to see what they all
offer. Then I'll tackle jack. So far I'm discovering some pretty
powerful tools. I don't like to sorta/kind know a program and I
think jack will divert me from the time I'm putting into really
get to know some basic programs first. I've just so bogged down
with trying to understand most of the program's docs that I'm
just not prepared to learn jack right now.
> Why not try using Rosegarden or Muse to play the sequences
> then you can interface directly to jack?
I was learning Rosegarden (according to the installer notes it's
version 2.1pl3-257) but it kept crashing. Even if it was stable,
it's not very (musically) intuitive. The only way to edit notes
is by numbers. It just didn't seem to have anything special
about it. Expecially compared to jazz's graphical editing and
live "real" insturment recording capabilities. And I'm still
reading the Doc on jazz. I probly have an old version of
Rosegarden (although I have the latest SuSE). Some of the things
I've heard about newer versions of Rosegarden sounds promising.
But with all the energy that goes into really getting to know
the details of all these programs, I just don't want to deal
with (possible) compiling problems. SuSE's put together a good
set of diverse music programs that work immediatly apon
installing them. I'm going to wait till I have the
time to work out possible compiling problems that come with
getting the newer versions.
I just tried out muse today. It looks very promising. But this
is what I encontered. I would appreciate if you could offer any
information on how to solve this.
I loaded a midi file that plays on every midi player/sequencer
I've used. And I also did the "quick start" But I couldn't get
any sound out of it and it didn't seem to input any notes from
my midi keyboard.
I have kaconnect set like this:
External MIDI 0 ---> Emu10K1 Wave Table
---> Muse Sequencer
Muse Sequencer ---> Emu10K Wave Table
I was unable to load any instruments in the track info window.
It just shows ---> ???
I tried all the different "Song Types". I'm too new at this to
know what "NO" "GM" "GS" and "XG" are so I tried each one and it
didn't seem to have any affect.
I'm looking forward to trying out Muse.
Any help would be appreciated...
Rocco
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>linuxmedia4(a)netscape.net wrote:
> Is there a program that converts .sf2 to .pat. If so, then when I
>> play midi files with timidity, they will sound like what I created with
>> jazz.
Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org> wrote:
>If I understand you correctly, then you are using in Jazz the
>SF2-midisynth of your soundcard (a Soundblaster probably) and you like
>the results, but when you record, you don't record your soundcards
>output but what timidity renders, right?
Exactly...
>So basically you don't like the rendering of timimidity, but you like
>the rendering of your soundcard. There are several ways to solve this,
>but "Jack" isn't necessary for this.
>
>* Record your soundcard's output. This may need a second soundcard
>or external recording gear.
Upon another person's suggestion, I have been using alsamixer's ability to "capture" _anything_. What a great tool this has been. I have done things like (not only) recorded my softsynth right into ecasound, but also added sound effects. This has the advantage of being able to hear the echo in my headphones but not recording them to the file (so I can add effects when I do the final mix). I was suprized at some of the things that it allowed. I was able to get better control over ecasound effects for one. I couldn't really get deep sounding delays until I disovered the ability to raise that channel in alsamixer. I've used those capibility along with the few program (compared to how many are out there) to do some pretty cool things. I was even able to record my softsynth into jazz (jazz has live recording cabilities) and even turn each midi track into a wav file that I then put into ecasound to record real instruments. I'm sure I can capture ecasounds effects into jazz and be able to record live instruments with effects. But this is not as versitile as being able to capture each midi track and put it all in ecasound and get much better control and quality over the sound.
>* Use a software soundfont synthesizer. I think, timidity can also use
>soundfonts, but personally I use iiwusynth. This would work with
>your current setup, because you can configure ecasound to use another
>synth in ~/.ecasoundrc at:
> ext-timidity-cmd = timidity -Or1S -id -s %s -o - %f
>This can be replaced with your favorite synth.
I tried that with pmidi and playmidi and it worked, but it wouldn't let me record _anything_ to a file. I may have completly gone in a different direction with being able to record midi tracks, capturing them to wav and putting them into ecasound. Even with Timidity I couldn't fast forward while in ecasound. It just jumps to the beginning. But you never know when there's a combination of programs that do what no other seem to do. I will keep trying different seqencers with ecasound.
>* Use another sequencer. This is basically the same a solution two,
> but for example MusE comes with iiwusynth build in.
I'm Looking forward to trying Muse. I beleive from what I read, it will do live recording also. And appearently, form what I've discovered in the last few days, I'm probly going to be able to use any softsynth along with it.
Thanks for all your help
Rocco
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Greetings,
Anyone wishing to translate GUI of Ardour and the KSI-part of it please pay attention to /gtk_ardour/po/ and /ksi-ardour/po/ ! :-)
First translation into Russian will follow a few days later. Anyone to help me?
Alexandre
The SooperLooper LADSPA plugin now comes with PD patches!
For those that might not remember, SooperLooper is a LADSPA plugin that
emulates the Gibson-Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro looping sampler. Go get
more info and download it at its new address:
http://essej.net/sooperlooper/
See the screenshot of the PD patches in action here:
http://essej.net/sooperlooper/sooperlooper_pd_shot.png
It is controllable via the PD GUI or MIDI program change messages
from your footcontroller (the ideal interface).
Unfortunately, there are bugs in the plugin~-0.2 external that seems to
be around. I made a source patch that fixes the output control message
bugs, and extended them to include the output control port index as well.
You will need this patched version of plugin~ to run SooperLooper in PD
properly.
Get the patch here:
http://essej.net/sooperlooper/pd-plugin0.2-patch.diff
If someone on the pd-devel list could forward this, I would much
appreciate it.
Dave Phillips, could you also update the web address on your LM&S pages
with the new address above?
Enjoy... please post with any problems/suggestions.
jlc