Linux-audio-user July 2005

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[linux-audio-user] More Homemade Music --

by Steve D

I try to learn the amazing wealth of Linux tools for musicians and digital-audio recording a little at a time. The last couple days I've dug into the Hydrogen drum sequencer and, finally, the imposing and daunting Ardour. Anyway, here is a rough draft of one of my pieces (I'm a musician, not an accomplished mixer/masterer): http://www.xscd.com/pub/music/ogg/lonesome_butte.ogg The drums are pure Hydrogen, using its default drum kit. All digital-recording was done in Ardour and the session was exported to .wav file, then encoded to OGG using oggenc. Hydrogen -------- I was nervous about trying to create a believable drum part using a sequencer. I'm not a drummer and I felt it would sound very mechanical and awkward. However, Hydrogen's "human feel" time smear and velocity variation in the FX section of the mixer helps a lot. Ardour ------ I had put off learning anything about Ardour for a long time. I was scared of its seeming complexity. However, by concentrating at first on just the features that I needed to understand in order to record something, it wasn't as hard as I thought. It will take time to learn the program well though. Anyway, it sure is fun playing with these and other programs. I'm very impressed with all the great audio-oriented stuff available to Linux users and very grateful to the developers who create the tools. Steve D New Mexico US -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- A computer without a Microsoft Operating System is like a dog without bricks tied to its head. ----------------------------------------------------------------

20 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] Music made with linux... short song

by MarC

(http)www.telefonica.net/web2/mrvinyes/litlnemo/songs/litlnemo-S08.ogg Opinions?

20 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] Re: "Music" made with Linux!

by Juhana Sadeharju

The quotes were in wrong place. Here is a suggestion: Music "made with Linux"! I would like to see less Linux used as a simple recorder and more Linux used as a virtual studio, every gear being a software. So, if you have a human drummer, try to get him to use Hydrogen and drum samples. If you have a commercial hardware synth, try replace it with Zynaddsubfx. And so on. Juhana -- http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-graphics-dev for developers of open source graphics software

20 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] RadIO now has a RSS Podcast feed

by Mark Constable

I was interested to see if it was possible to turn the simple list of links on the RadIO Wiki page into a podcast feed and sure enough it seems to work reasonably well. I use Akregator and the "Complete Story" link even points to an empty Wiki page where anyone can leave notes or thoughts aout each song... or the author could leave "Song Notes" about how they created the song. Akregator is rumored to handle podcasts directly RSN... and oh yeah, if anyone creates a real voice podcast then that would fit in really nice too, especially if it's about how you created your song... go on, be the first to do it :-) (point being is I'm not sure other podcast hosts accept non-mp3 files) These usage instructions from http://opensrc.org/index.php?page=RadIO To add a link, simply Edit this document and add the URL of any freely redistributable Ogg or MP3 on the web at the top of this list below, then click on [ this link ] to recreate the podcast feed and streaming m3u list for broadband hi-fi streaming. Click on the links below to download the files directly and please remove any links that you feel are not appropriate or no longer work. It can't get any simpler. Sure, it's missing lots of info about the original author and license etc but every extra piece of info or login requirement is another barrier to entry... I can't see how it can be any simpler than this to provide at least one distributed catalog of open source songs. One click to paste a URL, a 2nd click to save the page and a 3rd click to auto generate the RSS/m3u feed. The direct link to the podcast RSS feed is at... http://opensrc.org/radio.rss and the broadband original-fi streaming link is... http://opensrc.org/radio.m3u and of course the actual media can be downloaded directly from the original site by RMB clicking directly on the media links. A handy linux CLI friendly podcast aggregator is bashpodder from... http://linc.homeunix.org:8080/scripts/bashpodder/ --markc

20 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] EMU1212m support

by Lee Revell

Someone brought this device to my attention: http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp?product=2209&category=754&maincateg… Creative may donate a device to an ALSA developer to develop the necessary support, if they think Linux users would be interested. There is already a volunteer to develop the driver support. If you would consider buying this device were it supported (I certainly would) please contact Creative and politely ask them. I think if just a few people write them along the lines of "I really like looks of the 1212m, and I'd like to buy one, if I could use it with Linux. Can you provide one to the ALSA developers?", they will do it. Every person who takes the time to contact them, they will assume represents N users. Lee

20 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] Audio sandbox..

by James Stone

I have been thinking about the problem of apps not remembering their connections etc. and also the problem with manually loading patches etc. The fact that my desktop can automatically restore previous state (with reasonable accuracy) makes me thing that this should not be a really big problem (although I recognise the fine detail is more problematic). I may be really underestimating the complexity here, but it seems to me that the best way to achieve this would be to have a kind of sub-shell or sub-window manager sandbox just for the audio apps. You then launch the apps within this, and have the ability to save state ( which just replicates your actions within the window for a future session). Anyone got any thoughts on this? It is a bit beyond my mediocre Python skills (I think), but I know there are developers here who might be able to pick up and run with this idea. The beauty of it, as I see it, is that apps don't have to be aware of the structure: they just do their thing and the sandbox remembers all the human input to get them into the correct state. So what do you all think? possible? impossible? already done? James

20 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] Support for the HDSP-RPM

by Daniel Frauchiger

Hi, Since I am an owner of a RPM (not a Digiface nor a Multiface) I am wondering if this is supported by hdsploader. Thank you for clarifying, Daniel --

20 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] Re: More Output

by Gavin Stevens

Hi James, "Eclectic Guitar" describes the sound very well. Very nice track. I always look forward to hearing your work because any expectation or pre-conception I may have is confounded in a most pleasant way. Keep up the good work, Gavin. > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:42:15 +0100 > From: james(a)dis-dot-dat.net > Subject: [linux-audio-user] More output > To: Linux Audio/Music <LAM(a)dis-dot-dat.net>, A list for linux audio > users <linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu> > Message-ID: <20050707164215.GA29912(a)phlunky.Belkin> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > After the recent glut of very good stuff coming through the lists, I > feel less inclined to expose myself. > > But I will anyway. > > http://dis-dot-dat.net/content/music/calmer.ogg > > And swap the ogg for mp3 if you prefer it. > > Jamin is playing silly buggers, so it hasn't gone through my usual > final compression to sort out levels, but I'm not going to play with > it any more. > > I can't play guitar, so I've tried to make something that sounds like > an electric guitar. It's actually a mangled sample from ZynAddSubFX, > so it's probably better to call it an ecclectic guitar. > > Anyway, comments not just welcomed, but begged for, as usual. > > James

20 years, 1 month

Re: machine, media, rock on (Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: [LAM] More output)

by Shayne O'Connor

Conrad Parker wrote: > On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 08:11:10AM +1000, Shayne O'Connor wrote: > >>Conrad Parker wrote: >> >>>http://kido.kfish.org/blog/ >> >>i remember seeing the post about Creative Commons tagging ... was going >>to respond, too, but was awfully busy at the time. it's an issue that i >>think LAU has to subscribe to - as it stands, though, the >>coder/developer is pretty much the bigwig on LAU and others, which has >>meant there is much more focus on the *software* side of Freedom rather > > > sure, but I think that's changing :) developers can be bigwigs on LAD, > but musicians should be the bigwigs on LAU. And hey, we can build our > own community of linux-audio stars :) > > you're right - it has been changing a lot (not that i'm much of a veteran) ... and i think with the inclusion of the rt_limits patch in kernel 2.6.12 onwards, and a lot of linux audio apps reaching a stable state, we could see a lot more focus in the LAU on the more cultural side of the GNU license (ie - the Creative Commons) ... everyone on LAU should get themselves hip to tagging their music as CC-enabled, it should go without saying. >>than the cultural. one of my original intents with "machine has no >>recordings" was to get all the Linux created audio on one site and have >>podcast feeds for them ... i'm still wanting to do this, but what has >>stalled me until now is the lack of license information in the majority >>of the songs released to LAU/LAM. i assume most, if not all, tracks >>*are* free for use, but this should be explicity stated ... > > > totally -- ok, I think the right thing to do is really to encourage the > artists to tag their tracks -- I mean, they have to choose their license > etc. anyway. > > >>i'm just wondering whether my webserver people will allow me to install >>vorbistools on my server ... even though i've included CC info in my >>tags, and on my site, i don't think i did it in the offical way - so i'm >>not sure if they would be included in any Creative Commons search :( > > > right, I think that kind of info will encourage people to tag -- as in > if a site like yours has rules that you won't host/link any music that's > not tagged properly, and otherwise it won't be found anyway, then people > might start tagging. There is an actual problem in that if the music isn't > tagged then it defaults to All Rights Reserved and you can't legally host > it anyway. > > that's what i thought. and seeing as i'm a great procrastinator, i haven't bothered asking anyone yet ... well, not until yesterday, which - fortunately enough - prompted this discussion :D i would have no problem compiling and hosting an RSS 2.0/Podcast feed for all linux audio ... i've got 5GB of server space, and just under 500mb of it is used. once it was all in the one place (it wouldn't actually *have* to be in the one place, but i would be happy to provide ftp access for LAUers that needed hosting), it would be easy to add it to such repositories as commontunes or ipodder.org. i guess the first steps would be to agree on the meaning of the varoius XML tags used in the podcast feeds, write a tutorial on tagging and submitting a song (should be a simple process) and then getting people to submit them to me ... dunno what the interest would be, though - most people seem pretty happy with the status quo in relation to these things, or at least resistant to a centralized effort (?!). >>(have you check out http://www.commontunes.org? maybe it would be an >>idea to get a "linux-audio" tag happening there - all created tags have >>an associated podcast/rss2.0 feed) > > > yeah, that's a good idea too -- I only found that site yesterday, linked > off yours :) > > >>wow - you're the closest LAU-er to me yet! i'm in leura in the blue >>mountains (i grew up on the northern beaches, though). > > > heh, there's a few more people in sydney too, and every now and then we > meet up for slugamusig (http://amusig.slug.org.au/) -- trying to get > more musicians involved atm ... > > Anyway, we should meet up for a beer some time. > > that's always a thing i like to do :) >>great to hear from you, and let me know of anything i can do to help out! > > > ok cool, please mail LAU and beg people to tag, that'd be a good start > :) > i've forwarded this onto LAU .... > Also I'm chatting to people about getting support between eg. rhythmbox > and podcasts, to make it really easy to find new free music. I'll pull > you into that conversation too :-) > > ok, cool - it'd be good to get as many people on board this as possible - it doesn't *have* to be promoted as LINUX audio ... it *should* be identifiable as such, though ... and, let's face it, if you've made your music with linux, chances are you're going to subscribe to the Creative Commons line of thought - may as well make that as conspicuous as possible. we'll get that beer one day soon! shayne

20 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-user] www.tomcruiseisnuts.com

by Stephen Hassard

http://www.tomcruiseisnuts.com/home.php nice :P

20 years, 1 month

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Linux-audio-user July 2005